Question:
How will the new passport rules for Canadians visiting the U.S. affect you?
Y! Canada News Editors
2007-01-24 10:14:15 UTC
Starting this week, Canadians flyding to the United States are required to show a valid passport. Soon, this new rule will affect all Canadians crossing the border. Suprisingly, hundreds of people applying for passports discovered their citizenship had expire.

Read more here.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/23012007/3/canada-passport-applicants-find-re-canadian.html
116 answers:
puckbunny
2007-01-24 10:25:05 UTC
Just to let you know this new rule also applies to Americans coming into Canada. They also must have a valid passport to re-enter the US.
Edward C
2007-01-24 15:51:28 UTC
Machine readiable passports will allow the Canadian government to monitor the length of your travels outside of Canada! Beyond 180-days you'll loose 'provincial residency status' affecting, your income tax classification, property assessments, Old Age Security adjustment, Health Care Benefits. After the 180-day limit you'll need to re-apply for some of these benefits. Your Canadian Citizenship will never expire; it's your residency status you need to be concerned about! It's all a matter of determining or establishing verification for increasing your personal taxes or, deleting you from government benefits.... And, you thought it meant only easy access back and forth across the US/Cdn border... Be advised, your 'privacy rights' will be violated between the federal/provincial/municipal governments! Don't believe me then, start phoning the toll free numbers of the federal government...remember, the 'notwithstanding clause' in our Constitution.



In reference to National Security Policy between the US/Cdn... The USA is within it's legal right to limit open access, without a valid passport, from any Country. Unless, you have a special status, as a previous US Citizen or were in the US Armed Forces. Keep in mind that the USA does not permit Americans dual citizenship. CCIS is monitoring Canadian 'terriorism' connectings and, it has nothing to do with Canadian Passports.

Not so long ago, 5000 CdnPassports were stolen... Passports are used for entry into the USA... Does a Canadian need a passport to return, into Canada, when driving a Canadian vehicle, and you carry a provincial drivers license, birth certificate or any photo identification? It's not American Law you need be concerned with; more so, how has Canadian Law been amended to control the movement of Canadians? What mobility Constitutional Rights...that's within Canada...and there are limitations!!!
Jeanette D
2007-01-24 15:25:39 UTC
We are a family of 6, we all have passports.

Most of our travel is by van to the US and we have found it to be much more convient to travel with passports as opposed to drivers licenses and birth certificates. Childrens' passports cost less and have to be renewed more frequently. It is terribly frustrating to try and get a 1 year old to do a picture properly, but that's the way it goes.

But this "new" standard has been coming for over a year, I sent for my youngest child's passport last summer when it was in the news then, it arrived via the mail in 3 weeks, I have had files returned b/c they were not happy with the pictures etc. but once I sent in new photos it seemed things were expidited very quickly (new passport in less than a week).

On a differenct tack... I am also a qualified guarenteur in Canada and I am very frustrated with people coming with incomplete applications etc for me to fill out and then they get angry when I say it has to be complete before I will sign their form and pix. I also need to see thier ID. Anyone hear of fraud?

I think in Canada we are a little spoiled by our excellant relationship with the US and quite a few Canadians have not travelled to other countries other than the US. You need a passport to go just about everywhere else, it is YOUR identification and if you are in another country it verifies YOUR citizenship, be happy and grateful you can have it to carry, the Canadian passport is very valuable.
Shanna
2007-01-24 15:25:25 UTC
The new passport rules do not affect me at all. I carry a valid passport on me since the last 10 years or so and this one, now, only expires August this year. Used it as much for leisure or business trips. Hope the waiting lines cool down, hehe.



Crossed over to the States last Sunday in Philipsburg to go I-89 in Vermont. Got held up at the border by vehicule in front of me, with Massachussett plates (sorry for mistake). The driver and passengers got out of their car, opened the trunk to get their passports in the suitcases. It felt nice to see that everybody is treated the same.



Anyways, between the States and Canada, we're all mix-matched... A lot of the same family names... The passport to differ is a good idea.
BrowBrat
2007-01-24 15:22:40 UTC
As a Canadian born and raised here (my family has been here for centuries), I should be able to cross the border on my birth certificate. If that is the way that America wants to handle it, let them also carry passports to come to Canada. In short, if you were born in Canada, you should be able to cross with no problems but if you were born elsewhere, yes, I believe a passport is a valid option. By the way, this will also prevent many Canadians from crossing the border on vacation because it is only another expense that we don't need when we travel within our own beautiful country. Canada is the best country in the entire world.
Fran Farraday
2007-01-24 15:06:33 UTC
Actually, I don't think this is a bad idea.......with the way the world is going, it is an excellent way to keep acceptable papers on hand for ID purposes. Not having been born in Canada, and immigrating when I was around 9 on my mothers passport from UK, I have had to have plenty of papers from both governments just to get my Canadian Citizenship in 1965 and my Old Age Pension just 2 years ago. For those who were born here, it should be no problem, but most others will hit barriers for getting: jobs, married, buying property etc. A passport is a good thing to have even if you have to get another one every 5 years. Be glad its Canada you belong to, not any other country!!
Reginald T
2007-01-24 15:06:02 UTC
This new law will only affect me if I'm crossing the border with someone who may not have a passport. Other than that, I don't mind the new law. The United States is their own country. If they say you need a passport to enter, you need a passport to enter. In the same way, if one were travelling from Benin to Nigeria, they would be required to carry a passport. Canada should adopt the same law. We all must protect our borders.



The United States should especially guard there borders. They are the most likely country in the world to be a target for a massive terror attack. It is true: live by the sword, die by the sword; live by terror, die by terror. The difference between al Qauda and the U.S. is that the U.S. administration uses military power as a means to inflict terror into other nations. Therefore, having a terrorist administration, the United States must protect there borders as much as possible. To do otherwise would be devastating to the millions of innocent people in America.
rkilburn410
2007-01-24 14:52:23 UTC
well it will keep me from cross boarder shopping. And because I am on a small disability pension, I can not afford the $85.00 to pay for a passport, I like to take advantage of a few select item at the stores less than 1/2 hour away, but I will have to pay $85.00 to take advantage of butter at $2.00 a pound rather than the 3.60 in Canada. I also believe that this a cash cow for the Canadian Government, as the passports have to be renewed ever 5 years. and also as a reminder Citizens from the USA will have to have a passport to get back in to the states, and there are no family discounts, or seniors discounts. Just hand over the money.
hybrid_boost
2007-01-24 14:44:41 UTC
I think its proper to cross countries with a passport.



What disturbs me is the fact the US sticks their noses into other peoples/countries business and it backfires on them. 911 is a good example. So due to their incompitence, we suffer.



If you have the slightest record (which they used to let go without any problems) Now they will send you back and try to get a photo and finger prints on you (wether you have a record or not)



If you dont have a passport then you are going to be turned back. When they didnt need canadians to do so before.



I think the US customs have too much power and are acting rediculous to the retaliations from 911. They treat canadians like dirt and yet expect canadians to back them up in the war. Such a contridiction.



I find passports useful, but the restrictions with the passports and the fact its the only way into the US is stupid. They want too much information (prints and photo) for US records when they have no right to.



Most wont agree but these two topics Passports & 911 are all completely tied in to each other. The US do as they plz and take on too much for even themselves can handle. Yet think they are doing the right thing.



In the end, all's they are doing is tightening the noose around their neck, trying to control everything.
ziamperri
2007-01-24 13:45:07 UTC
I have no problem with carrying a passport. I have had one continuously since I was 10 and made my first trip overseas. I, like many Canadians, am interested in seeing more of this globe than just English speaking North America. The plus side is that Americans also need a passport to fly across the border, do they not? Perhaps doing so, they may start to realise that we are a sovereign nation, separate historically, politically, legally and philosophically from them, and are not an appendage to their "United States." Maybe our own government might also come to understand this too. That would be a good thing.
dancingfool51
2007-01-24 13:34:13 UTC
Well I have a few thoughts on this. 1) the cost If your a family of 4 or 6 it is far too costly. If I was going to take vacation and it meant spending another 2 or 3 hundred to go to the usa,,i would travel at home unless of course i could afford it. And many that did travel I am sure will stop. If it is going to cost that much then they should at least last longer. And i know the issue is the picture so why not just design something cheaper that lets you update a picture every 5 years. After all the INFO part should be the same. I feel the price is too high bottom line and the rich will have them but many will not be able to afford it I am sure. so i am sure it will effect alot of people when deciding their vacations,,,,Getting so the hassel to travel anymore is JUST not worth it. Stay home.



2) It is also just another cost for the billions of trucks crossing every day. Suppose we will all pay for that in some increased cost for goods coming across the border.
Zee
2007-01-25 07:43:17 UTC
A passport for flying isn't a big deal since you usually plan that ahead of time and would normally make sure you have your passport if you need it.



I think sometime next year there will be a similar requirement for visits via automobile. I guess that just means that the majority of the 10 million Ontarians that live within an hour of New York, Pennsylvania & Michigan that used to make occasional and casual trips there just won't bother anymore since you don't plan those kind of trips 30 days ahead of time (current waiting period for passports).



I'm not complaining, no big deal, but I don't work in the tourist industry.
Ted K
2007-01-24 15:28:02 UTC
I will not be going there anymore. Even Theo I have a passport but I will use it to go somewhere else but will not be going to US under any conditions. I feel that all Americans and Canadians should be able to got over the border without any passports because we are like one Country anyway. I find that having a passport to go to US is waste of money. We can have other means which can be free to use if you want to go for a visit to the US.

Ted
chikkaboomboom
2007-01-24 16:03:46 UTC
I will not affect me in the least even though I do business in the US. For years "Canadians" have been jumping up and down and saying that we are not Americans and we are different and better and so and so. So why should we not have to carry passports? The USA IS A DIFFERENT COUNTRY! At least that's what Canadians have been saying. I have always carried my passport WITH PRIDE in the fact that I am Canadian. I have always had one in fact I was born here. I so no problem with them requiring us to carry passports or even to have a border fence. This is Canada and that is the USA!
anonymous
2007-01-24 16:10:00 UTC
Why travel to the United States? There are travel destinations that require little thing more than a tourist card for visitors.

I expect border shopping will eventually be effected including day trips when the new laws are enforced. Many people enter the U.S. just for lunch or gas, no more, passports are not cheap and create just enough incentive to stay at home. When I need a passport to travel, the States will no longer be my first choice, the convenience is now taken away!
anonymous
2007-01-24 16:03:24 UTC
The new rules do not affect me directly at the present time as I'm not flying anywhere. However, I will have to get in line if the border crossing requirements change before the scheduled date of January 2008. We plan to cross into the U.S. in July this year and will need alternate vacation plans if we require a passport for each family member. $300 + for our family for passports alone is part of the vacation budget so we couldn't afford a U.S. trip.
Scott R
2007-01-24 14:23:54 UTC
I guess if I have to get a passport to go to the U.S.A. I will but the ruling will hurt the economy of Canada and U.S. This ruling is taking away our freedoms and the terrorists are winning because of this. It is not going to really help security it will slow down the movements of people and goods between our two nations. Number 1 is the cost of the passport that is what will hurt the economy of both countries. 2. I am a Canadian citizen and like other fellow Canadians should not be required a passport to visit the United States, I was born in Canada and not Osama Bin Laden. This hurt the U.S. wake up America! It is ridiculous.Canadian citizens should not need them. 3. Landed immigrants should need a visa to enter the U.S.A. not Canadian citizens like me and others. The terrorists are winning and taking away our freedoms as Canadians and Americans it is sad. Our governments should be negotiating a better solution, in the long term it is really not effective. We are losing our freedom as nations. I give it a thumbs down all the way down. We are letting a few terrorists affect the freedom of our nations we must not allow that.

Scott Toronto Canada
Sarah S
2007-01-24 14:22:13 UTC
My husband and I have had a passport since 2002 which now expires 2007 but we plan on renewing very soon for our trip in August. So no problems there.

The problem I do have is that I'm pregnant right now due in April. So pretty much as soon as the kid pops out we have to get a passport for him. That's a bit much especially trying to get a two week old not to have an expression and have his eyes open and mouth closed. And at four months he'll look at lot different than 2 weeks. Do they really think that a tiny little baby is going to be a terrorist? The only thing that could be classified as a threat is what I'm sure he'll be leaving in a couple of diapers.



I think passports for adults is one thing but for infants is a bit much. I know the threat of child abduction is out there but as long as you have birth certificates and such that should be enough or at least not so strict of rules for the baby's passport photo.
willow21pipkyn
2007-01-24 14:19:29 UTC
It doesn't really affect me, because I have a valid passport and I don't actually travel much anyway. I always thought we should have passports, in the first place, for crossing the border into the US. When I was young, I thought we did need one and it made sense to me to have to show a passport when entering any other country. I believe that this should be the case for travel in all regions of the world. In a place like Italy, when I went, they required all people to be signed in as visitors of their country, using their passport. I think this would be a smart idea, to reduce the travel of those of an undesirable nature.
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:57:21 UTC
I go over the border about six times a year, about once every other month ,so I ordered my passport last year. I got it in under 3 weeks . As I do not drive it's the only government Id I have with a photto. I look at it this way if we going to any country other then the usa we wouldn't even think twice about getting a passport as we know we would need one to cross the border case closed. but we havent needed one for the states before so now were up in arms about it, the fact is the usa is not part of our country so we need a passport so in reguards to this matter get over it.
Bunny
2007-01-24 15:45:29 UTC
The new passport rules for Canadians visiting the U.S. does not affect me what-so-ever. I have had a passport for years, because i travell outside of the U.S.

I think they should have had those rules in affect sooner.
Lauren
2016-05-24 08:36:35 UTC
The last few times I've crossed the border from Canada into USA, my passport was not stamped. They simply scan the barcode and bring up your "file" to review your recent visits and status. When I go by plane, they usually flip through the passport and look at a few of the pages, I think mainly to see where I have been. I suspect if I had a stamp from certain countries (Cuba? Afghanistan? Saudi Arabia?) they may ask me a few more questions or send me over to see someone for an "extended" security check. But that has not happened so far, mainly because I rarely go anywhere but USA when I leave Canada.
sthonkala
2007-01-24 14:29:57 UTC
I do think that a passport is a good idea, especially for children travelling with divorced or separated parents.

The concern that I have is that I was born to army parents in Germany and therefore must pay extra to prove I am a Canadian.

The government is just looking to make that extra buck and all of the Canadians born out of Canada will be covering the cost!
cubaenliberte
2007-01-24 14:05:49 UTC
Nothing at all Because every body all around the world have allready a passport and almost 90% of the Canadiens got on!



So it's american's the problem! They think just because they live south of the border they will cross Canadien Border without a valid passport,no way my friend it's the law now in Canada too.



So no passport no entry!
madlee31
2007-01-24 14:01:03 UTC
No big deal! I guess only the cynical people like me see getting a passport a big pain in the @*#. Right now there are waiting times of 8 hours at passport offices and of course that is only during business hours and Mon to Fri. The people that work so they can afford to go on a trip outside Canada probably would need to take a day off to go to the office to get their passport. HUMMMM! No Big Deal? Also the cynical people might see this as a big money grab considering this document is only valid for a certain amount of time and let's see.... I'm sure that people have to pay to have it renewed. Just more red tape
charly b
2007-01-24 16:06:31 UTC
well I do think it was comming, when everyone would have to have a passport, but the prob i have with it is they knew about this since 2004, and done nothing to prepare for the flood of passport requests, and now they say it could take anywhere from 6 months to a year and a half, which is plain nonsense to me, and one other thing the rest of the worlds passports are good for 10 years not five, it should not be a money maker for the goverment, i am planning to move to Scotland, so I am hoping i will get mine in due time.
seachange9899
2007-01-24 15:22:13 UTC
I have always carried a passport so the new rule doesn't "affect" me but on the other hand, this marks the beginning of the end of the "longest undefended border in the world" and nullifies the raison d'etre of the Waterton Glacier International Peace Park in Alberta/Montana. I am sorry to see the US become even more insular, protectionist and paranoid. These rules will serve very effectively for keeping Americans at home and I suspect that is a large motivating factor here.
heather
2007-01-24 14:09:27 UTC
Though many Candians may not be directly affected by this change, Passport Canada have announced delays to all passport applicants of up to 20 business days! So no matter where you want to go, if you need a new passport you can expect a delay of over one month. Why weren't the offices of passport Canada better prepared for this influx?
rainbowscuba
2007-01-24 14:02:10 UTC
The passport issue wont affect me since I have a valid passport and I will make sure it never expires. It is my most important document. But I also don't travel to the States unless I absolutely have to. I don't feel welcomed so why would I go.

To me having to carry a passport where it wasn't necessary for such a long time is a huge step backwards. The EU went the other way. Since they finally eliminated having to carry a passport for members of the EU, travel has become much easier. It is a sign of trust. Obviously the US doesn't trust anybody anymore.
Shawn S
2007-01-24 15:41:57 UTC
Well Canada is having to get their Passports to increase security to the Boarders. Canada has always been a gateway for terrorists to the USA. The USA had a wake up call in 2000 when a guy was caught getting off the Ferry at Port Angeles, Washington with a large amount of explosive materials was a prelude to the September 11th attacks.



So i am happy to see the Passports being enforced - then more careful screening and review of people will weed out criminals and people who over stayed their welcome. I think Canada has to strengthen the Citizenship to get the Criminals who abuse our immigration system. Its sad to hear a good family being deported while criminals run through our system with citizens paying for their carelessness.



I am a Canadian and American - but i have to have both sets of passports just for fun. So i can play the american going to Canada and the canadian going to the USA :D.
Wata
2007-01-24 13:35:19 UTC
I was affected indirectly. I always believed in using a passport for travel, after all that's what passports are for. My children's passports were due to expire in March '07, and we have booked an overseas trip for first week of April. So I thought to myself "nah, I can apply for new passports in late Feb, and get them in time.. right?" WRONG!

Just because everyone woke up all of a sudden to the reality that they can't travel to the US by air without a passport, there was a rush at the passport office. In turn this has caused a huge backlog there.

The end result: I went to the passport office this morning at 6am (there was 60 people ahead of me, and the office doesn't open till 7:30!). I was done by 10:30 and told to expect the new passports in the mail by end of Feb.
anonymous
2014-11-02 20:54:13 UTC
Canadian government to monitor the length of your travels outside of Canada! Beyond 180-days you'll loose 'provincial residency status' affecting, your income tax classification, property assessments, Old Age Security adjustment, Health Care Benefits. After the 180-day limit you'll need to re-apply for some of these benefits. Your Canadian Citizenship will never expire; it's your residency status you need to be concerned about! It's all a matter of determining or establishing verification for increasing your personal taxes or, deleting you from government benefits.... And, you thought it meant only easy access back and forth across the US/Cdn border... Be advised, your 'privacy rights' will be violated between the federal/provincial/municipal governments! Don't believe me
anonymous
2007-01-28 10:14:28 UTC
Thanks for the two points Canadians!!!!
ME!!
2007-01-27 21:37:05 UTC
You are entering into another country you should have a passport. AND they have to think that people from MEXICO need a passport to get into America. CANADA should have the same rules. They should not have no special treatment. Why is CANADA being treated so differently then MEXICO? It makes you wonder.
AK1971
2007-01-27 19:45:41 UTC
Though it's a bother getting a passport, if you're a visible minority born in the US or Canada, you still have to show your Birth Certificate as proof of "Citizenship". I'll gladly show my passport when crossing the border, it's easier to open the a booklet than a piece of document.
dual citizen
2007-01-24 17:54:30 UTC
1. I understand the frustration of the people who have now discovered that they are not Canadian citizens due to a technicality and wonder whether at the time this law was in power Canadian immigration informed people travelling out of the country that they need to sign such a document if they are going to be residing outside of Canada on their 24th birthday? Additionally it would be interesting to know on the basis of which document did they then let them back into the country if they where not Canadian citizens upon return?



2. On the point of border babies. Both Canadian citizens and landed immigrants have equal rights to child support and old age security benefits. However, only Canadian citizens have the right to vote while landed immigrants do not. So how did the Mr. Mallo have the right to vote if he was not a Canadian citizen? It seems that there is a contradiction here.



3. Just for the information of people having fun with dual citizenship (specifically Canadian/US dual citizenship) according to international law when you are in one of the countries of your citizenship that country deems you only its citizen. It is your right to choose exclusively in those countries that you are not a citizen of, e.g. as a Canadian/US citizen you can choose to be treated as a one or the other in Mexico. In Canada under the letter of the law you are only a Canadian citizen and are not recognised as a US citizen and vice versa when you are in the US you are only recognised as a US citizen.



So then is it just fun to enter Canada with a US passport when you have dual Canadian/US citizenship or is it technically illegal?



4. On another point, what is the case with Canadian citizens that do not have machine readable passports? Will they be treated like citizens of the EU that have their fingerprints and photos taken on entering the US? The information given by Canadian embassies in 2006 was that Canada does not issue machine readable passports except in Canada, London and Hong Kong. Additionally they also state that you can only get a Canadian passport in the place of your residence, so if you are working abroad for an extended period of time you cannot get your passport issued in Canada but have to get it from your nearest embassy. Considering the large number of Canadians that work and live abroad it is also something that needs to addressed.



5. Additionally a comment on the posting on terrorists crossing the boarder from Canada into the US. I do assume that each country is still solely responsible for whom it allows to cross its borders. For example if a terrorist lives in some overseas country and travels to the US and passes through US immigration is it the fault of the country he/she came from or a laps of the US customs control? Why should it be any different in the case of Canada.



6. Finally, the main purpose of a passport is as a means of identification outside the borders of the country of your citizenship so I do not see why you should not use it whether you go by plane or on foot when crossing the border from Canada to the US or vice versa.
melo
2007-01-24 16:52:02 UTC
I do not known what all the fuss is about I have been using my passport for the past 20 years plus it will have zero effect on me.
TomB
2007-01-24 16:29:36 UTC
It will not affect me, but it is ridiculous that the people who have lived here all their lives are finding they are no longer Canadian citizens.
mongoose_vsl2k1
2007-01-24 16:14:10 UTC
The new passport requirement for entry into the US don't have much effect for me.



All it means is that the US government don't needed my tourist dollars. Why should I have to spend over $100 CAD to visit the US. I don't see how a passport gives more security than the current driver license photo-ID. If you can not verified a driver's license as valid than you can not verified any ID.
yukonairedale
2007-01-24 16:09:41 UTC
I got my passport last year!
safecracker2006
2007-01-24 16:06:53 UTC
1st off it will not effect me as I allready have a PP. I also think it is a good idea as for individuals who now found out they have lost there citizenship. I do feel for them. But Oh well. Ignorance of thge law is no excuse. If we were to go to 1 of the countries were some of those immigrants came from & didn't obide by there laws no matter what the law was concerning we wouldn't be able to use that as an excuse we didn't know that was the law. Why should they be able to do it here. After all part of being a Canadian citizen is 2 know the laws in Canada. You would think if you wanted Canadian citisenship you would learn all the laws which were required. Bottom line is they have no one to blame but themselves
confused
2007-01-24 16:04:34 UTC
I applied for my passport in nov of2006 haven't heard word one yet its going to make it hard to go to vegas when i want to next month unless i go by land to the US and then fly from there I'm stuck in the snow bank lol. I think people born and raised in Canada or the US should not need a passport to travel back and forth between our two countries anyway.
zimmlin67
2007-01-24 16:01:52 UTC
Let's be positive. Carrying passport to go to different country is the best idea for identification specially to identify bad people.
will
2007-01-24 15:58:14 UTC
I'd like to pose another question, will Americans have to have a passport to enter our country?
Charlie C
2007-01-24 15:57:47 UTC
we should extend passport validity to 10 years
anonymous
2007-01-24 10:18:46 UTC
It won't bother me,let them carry passports,I think it's a good idea !!
evildragon1952
2007-01-24 10:22:14 UTC
It doesn't bother me one bit.
scorpygirl
2007-01-24 10:27:26 UTC
Do not affect me at all. I think is OK.
basebam1967
2007-01-24 10:55:00 UTC
Let "THEM" carry passports???? It is this type of insular attitude that will spell the downfall of American society. Hint: it has already started. If I don't have to travel to the U.S. I won't. There are better places to go.
?
2007-01-24 10:58:37 UTC
I've ALWAYS used my passport as ID to go to the USA ... whether by road .. or plane. So ... won't affect me too much
anonymous
2007-01-24 11:05:57 UTC
First, I feel sorry for those who found out their citizenship had expired, but one must be responsible for oneself.....noone will hold your hand.



I don't see how having to have your passport to go into the States is any different than going anywhere else in the world. I'm surprised it took 9/11 to make it happen



If having my passport will help with dealing with the ignorant people at customs when going into the States, then glad it's happened.....I've never beem treated or spoken to so terribly as when going over to the States this summer, and I worked in a bar for 10 years!!!
Branmuffin75
2007-01-24 11:09:01 UTC
Let "them" carry passports. A little insulting, eh?

Stereotypical "eh" intended.

It's sad that in our society that passports are required for cross border travel (but you do realize Americans will need them as well for passing back into the United States, right?)

I don't mind having to use them- I don't like the cost involved for our family it will cost well over a few hundred dollars.
Canuck
2007-01-24 11:18:16 UTC
In Europe, you can travel and work anywhere, in any country, and not have to worry about a passport. I think that citizens of Canada, especially the ones born and raised here, shouldn't have to have a passport to cross the border. I do think, however, that landed immigrants, visitors of either country, or newer citizens should have to show some kind of Identification, like a passport, to cross the border.
monkey man
2007-01-24 11:20:08 UTC
to all who hate the passport issue "SUCK IT UP"
Vasco Pyjama
2007-01-24 11:22:37 UTC
What's the big deal? It hasn't affected me at all. I had a valid passport that expired in December. I applied for a new one and it came in the mail. Easy. I live in Sarnia and fly out of the Detroit airport often and have used my passport regularly when flying to or from the US as well as driving across the border. This is news?
jigsawman54
2007-01-24 11:23:35 UTC
I don't expect any problems with the passport issue,mainly because of the fact that I don't expect to be travelling in the U.S.

anyway.So to those who procrastinated and now find themselves worrying and wringing their hands..........HA!!
Red Ensign
2007-01-24 11:33:14 UTC
So I had to get a passport? So what??? When I visit the U.S. I am (duh) visiting another country! Why WOULDN'T I need a passport?



Get over it folks.
ed g
2007-01-24 12:04:04 UTC
Damn good idea. What took them so long? If you are a citizen of either country and have nothing to hide then whats the problem? I still haven't gotten over the RCMP allowing certain individuals to wear turbins, so the passport issue is nothing, and a step in the right direction
gotoguybo1
2007-01-24 12:48:27 UTC
I could care less about a passport.



The USA cries all the time for tourism.



The amount of money spent by Canadians in the USA, will be sorely missed by the american businesses.



USA wants to be safe, they should just not allow anyone in or out from any country.



This really does show, how terrified they are by sticking thier noses where they do not belong for so many years.
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:14:54 UTC
I am already a valid passport holder, so it won't affect me, however there are members of my family who are not. My question would be what happens to larger families who, in the past, have been able to take a Sunday drive across the border. How can they afford the expense of each person having a passport?? And what was wrong with our birth certificates as proof of nationality. In my opinion, its just government making more work for already overworked government departments. Will it stop or decrease terrorism? I highly doubt it.
fivestringeringer
2007-01-24 13:19:57 UTC
I think it's another ploy by the American Administration to keep an eye on everyone and anyone within their borders. Seems a little too coincidental that in this era of heightened paranoia and insecurity, that ALL foreigners need now identify themselves. Taken on it's own, it hardly seems noteworthy, but seen in the proper context of the times... Call it a conspiracy theory if it makes you comfortable.



And to those of you who say, "Ha, it doesn't affect me," remember that when someone comes for you, and there's no one left to say anything. We're all in this together. Take a step back, and look at the big picture.



Consider the totalitarian regimes of recent history, and the extreme measures they employed to "protect their security." Does any of this sound familiar? Does anyone see a pattern? We're supposed to be neighbours and allies, but when we choose to disagree, we're hit with sanctions at the borders, and the cold diplomatic shoulder. Now, we need rigorous documentation to cross the border. The Cold War's not over, it's just far more complicated, and far more sophisticated.
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:22:30 UTC
It is ok No problem with that. It is also true that American citizen will have to get a passport. Anyway when I'll travel I'll need a passport cause I am going to go elsewhere than United States there is a lot of more interesting things to see elsewhere
gina
2007-01-24 13:24:50 UTC
I cannot image my passport expired; that is like having a Drivers' License expired. Identification is important and a responsible thing to do unless you have something to hide and want to keep your identity hidden.
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:26:26 UTC
You cares, The Yanks started crying that no one is going to Disney land but they treat everybody crossing the border like they are the next Ossama. Screw em I'll spend my money up here at least the people are friendly.
dalecalder2003
2007-01-24 13:27:28 UTC
They seem to be making it very clear that they do not want us in their little country so I'm more than happy to oblige. I have a passport and have had one for many years. Over the years I have gone down to Boston to fly to either Europe or Asia because the flights are a little cheaper. Well I'm on my way to Rome a month from today and I'm flying Air Canada all the way. I think the best way to show them what fools they are is to hit them in the wallet after all money is all they understand. If we all stay home and vacation in Canada or overseas they will soon get the message.



I think once they get the idiot out of the white house things will improve.
Vanessa H
2007-01-24 13:33:41 UTC
These new standards are ridiculous when it applies to toddlers. We have tried to have our daughter's picture taken on 3 separate occasions, which have resulted in her being very uncooperative. When we finally did get a photo where she wasn't crying or smiling, they said that the lighting was all wrong and was rejected at the passport office. I don't see how our country is any safer by imposing such high standards on toddlers. Do they really think that a 2 year-old is going to commit an act of terror? We are currently in Florida and are hoping that Canada will let us back in regardless of the fact that my 2 year-old is without passport.



I also have a friend who drove 4 hours to Toronto to the passport office only to be turned down as his birth certificate had a tiny tear on the top. Why do we pay for these people to have nice salaries, only to get spit in the face?
---Ã?---
2007-01-24 14:28:11 UTC
I don't understand why people are taking this matter to their hearts. A passport is meant to be used when you go to a foreign country. US is now vulnerable and the privilege (not right) of travelling to it without a passport is no longer a privilege.



Someone said in Europe one can travel/work without worrying about a passport; well to enlighten you, it's a 'union' just like I can travel and work in any province I want without worrying about paperwork. Please refrain from posting absurdities.



Some said it was gonna cost them hundreds of dollars to get passports and they were used to go south of the border on weekends. My fellow Canadian, maybe you should look at this as an opportunity to spend your 'tourists' money locally and help Canadian businesses live and employ! There are gorgeous breath taking places here. Talk to tourists when you spot them and they'll point to you things we take for granted.



Moreover, for $400 one can go to the UK, $450 to France, $520 to Ireland, I paid $407 round trip to Spain!!! (all prices are taxes included for those who wonder :) )



Please, use your passport and travel around the world to see what the rest of the world looks like. US and Canada look so much alike that it is even pointless to travel there: same stores, same food, same architecture, etc (my personal opinion).
DonnyOsmond
2007-01-24 13:55:08 UTC
I have renewed my passport regularly for more than 30 years, whether I had travel plans or not. Anybody who needed one for travel to the US, and didn't get the application in before the deadline, is stupid. They had at least 2 years' warning.



That said, the price of a passport has gone way up in recent years and is now a big burden to families. I say reduce the price. The government makes lots of money from this, especially given the huge number of applicants resulting from the new rules. Passports are now a necessity, not a frill. Cut the price in half , please. It's only fair.
Peter W
2007-01-24 13:35:33 UTC
I think that this will significantly affect people going to the States. Not everyone can afford to go elsewhere (europe and so forth) where a passport is required. People are going to say forget it and stay in Canada. (good for our tourism industry).



I do like going to the states, however instead of going earlier this year we may not go until the end of the year.
Gus
2007-01-24 13:31:43 UTC
I travel quite a lot for business to the US as well as Canada. My passport has three monts left on it before it expires. If I let it expire, I will have no passport. To obtain a new one, I must surrender my passport as it is still vadid, so once again, I'm without a passport. How is one suppose to travel during the time they are waiting to receive their passport?
angel
2007-01-24 14:36:56 UTC
Well, times have sure changed. I remember as a teen going to the states with just my Baptismal certificate, no picture. Yes, the world has become suspicious of everyone, even those who call themselves friends. Can. & USA. used to brag to the world what great friends we were, and Oh how wonderful to have such a border. I understand 9-11 changed things, so really the terrorist won. They destroy the World Trade Center, killed thousands of innocent people and now have divided friends. The young people of today may not realize just how much. Canada politicians will have to pass laws to cover those Canadians who because of this kilch will lose their citizenship. How can a country deny a 70 yr old lady Can. citizenship when she has lived here all these years, worked, and paid taxes. Let's not all go nuts at once. Common sense must prevail. My husband and I will not go to the States anymore, they are too suspicious of everyone.
stranger20824
2007-01-24 14:39:23 UTC
The passport requirement is only for air travel. You can still drive across the border with just a picture ID and your birth certificate. Though eventually passports will be required for that as well. Canada is now requiring passports from Americans who enter Canada by air now as well so the requirement affects Americans as well.
Tony S
2007-01-24 14:00:33 UTC
Well I think that peopel are complaining too too much about this. I believe it will be short term pain for long term Gain and will help both the US and Canada in protecting their borders. You see security was never meant to be convenient, its like using passwords on your computers without them your computer would be open to many more issues or having a key for your house, we always loose our keys or things happen but we still have them,. Canada is a beautiful country and the US is a great country and I think a passport is the least one can have to enter both countries. God bless these two democratic states that provide their citizens with all the rights and freedoms.



Good Day.

I WOULDNT GO TO MEXICO IF I COULD WITH A FREE TICKET.
stardust
2007-01-24 13:49:04 UTC
I think all Canadians should stay in Canada and explore the beauty and excitement that Canada has to offer. With all the violence towards Canadian in the States it is beyond me why you would want to go to the States. Besides why do the Canadians have to provide a valid passport and the American can come to Canada without one, talk about a two way street. I know this person and my family will not be travelling to United States it is just to expense. My grandchildren and children will be exploring their own country, and discovering what it is to be CANADIAN.
anonymous
2007-01-24 15:35:20 UTC
I will try to take more direct flights out from Toronto or one of the major Canadian centers.

Society seems to be getting strictor as a whole,when it comes to rules....but still society and crime is getting worse.

I don't think that this is the solution, just a way to weed out people and especially a money making tool. Passport prices will go skyrocketing soon as well.
Chasity M
2007-01-24 15:02:56 UTC
I am frustrated due to the fact that I am a North American Indian, whom has "dual citizenship" to begin with and have only needed to show my Native Status Card and this is our "passport". I understand their concern for safety, blah, blah, blah, but eventually the economic impact on border towns should indicate the loss that this will have on the tourist economy and perhaps they will lose out in money from each others casinos. In the end, it is all a money game. I intend to get my "passport" because I have recently discovered "all-inclusive" resort destinations, so alas, I will be forking over the $87.00 for each and every passport my family will need.
haze
2007-01-24 14:32:49 UTC
I think the whole thing is a bit of a pain eventhough i do believe we should have passports as a form of ID...I guess I wish the passports could expire in 10years instead of 5..



The whole back log is really discouraging, as I have to take a trip and will not get my passport in time..I dont usually procrastinate, but I really didnt think it would take that long..I remember getting my passport after 5 days..I guess those good old days are over..
Modic
2007-01-24 14:29:49 UTC
(np, some one said you dont need a passport anywhere in europe....you do. I am British unfortunatly,



showing a passport is best, other wise all kinds of people can cross over, its not just us, but what if BIN LADEN crossed to Canada from USA? would you be happy then? showing a passport is good idea, I think you should be checked, nd its a great way to "filter" the people we get here, and you can also NOW catch criminals at the border, instead of them walking across!!! does no one see this????
Bobby Mac
2007-01-24 14:20:02 UTC
Cost of two passports $170, pictures $20 and all of the associated waiting and running around. I live in a small town about 35 minutes from a passport office. Priceless!
suggestion
2007-01-24 15:54:30 UTC
My passport expires in June, according to the passport, but its actually useless because customs require passport to be valid for six months when you enter the country.

We should change the passport to be valid for ten years, others done it already, U.S., U.K. I have to line up to get a new one.
anonymous
2007-01-24 15:49:18 UTC
I am a Canadian immigrant PR and I can tell you this - I will NEVER transit through the USA again as long as this paranoia lasts.



If this means lost tourism & tourist dollars for USA - then that is their problem - not mine. If their paranoia means I have to fly a more roundabout route to get home (to avoid US airspace) then thats my problem to deal with.



I will also make sure I never fly on any American airline again. They obviously are NOT safe. 4 of them were destroyed in one day by terrorists. I am willing to pay the extra to Canadian or other non-American airlines for the longer route.



I have nothing to hide, but I see no reason why the Americans should require my photo, my fingerprints and my personal details for something I will never do. I certainly will not be supporting their paranoia by giving them my hard earned vacation money.
Mandi M
2007-01-24 15:47:59 UTC
I read the article reading the people who have lost their citizenship. I have many obsenities to say to that, but that is not the point. Who made that rule? Who can answer that?! I hope someone is right on this. These people that were affected should be granted their citizenship and an apology. That is the least they could do to help the situation.
anonymous
2007-01-24 15:47:25 UTC
it makes me upset is that you got to know someone for two years to sign your passport form, i think that sucks!
anonymous
2007-01-24 15:33:49 UTC
I will have to ensure that my passport stays up to date. Everyone should have a passport who travels between countries, the Canada-USA border is no exception (it is a DIFFERENT country!). I hope that the Canadain Goverment will be able to handle the demand.
anonymous
2007-01-24 15:33:39 UTC
I am an American Living abroad, and passports are a good Idea Also think this whole thing has been handled VERY poorly.
anonymous
2007-01-24 15:26:34 UTC
I think it's a great idea and those people who don't agree have issues.

With everything that is going on in this world everyone should need a passport to cross any border anywhere, it's just one more way to try and keep us safe. If you have nothing to hide then what's the big deal, a couple of hundred dollars per family to bring us one step closer to safe travelling.

Wake up people this is for your safety!!!
anonymous
2007-01-24 15:24:18 UTC
They don't bother me. It's only $87 for one.
nanabooboo
2007-01-24 15:21:41 UTC
i could care less
David W
2007-01-24 15:21:29 UTC
It doesn't acually affect me but then I'm really concerned about this problem, I'm even writing an essay about it in school. I've been collecting notes and facts from CTV News @ 11 ever since I heard that the new rule is coming in effect.
vI j
2007-01-24 15:21:22 UTC
i just want a passport
A. H.
2007-01-24 13:29:31 UTC
I recently flew useing my passport and did not encounter a problem, it was all very simple. Getting the passport was another thing. Had to wait 3 hrs in line.
Trevor T
2007-01-24 13:30:57 UTC
Won't affect us one bit. It only makes sense to have a passport for ID.
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:38:59 UTC
I have always used my passport, so no affect.
MrJongy
2007-01-24 13:40:09 UTC
I think the last minute idiots deserve everything coming to them, it is not as it if they did not know it was coming - bloody procrastinators
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:48:27 UTC
The new passport rules will not affect me in the least. I try and practice a "vote with your dollars" lifestyle. I wouldn't purchase a vehicle that wasted energy or clothing made by child labour. I don't approve of American foreign policies, so clearly, I cannot be spending my money cross border shopping or holidaying. Ergo, no problem.
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:50:56 UTC
Well that sux as it is. But nothing I can do about it. I do have a fast cart anyways, don't think i need it then. Or do I? Well mine is still valid though!



Well best of luck to you unlucky people!!!!
anonymous
2007-01-24 13:51:31 UTC
Doesn't bother me at all - passports are used to gain entry to other countries, why should the Canadian/American thing be any different? It's time Canadians stopped being so insular.....the fact that many of them don't own passports says a lot to me!
daisy519
2007-01-24 14:00:44 UTC
We have a flight in April, and now I hear the wait is nine weeks plus mailing for a passport! The application is already sent away, but I'm still nervous that we won't get them in time.
Nicmazano
2007-01-24 14:30:10 UTC
It will cost me more money to visit the " land of the free and the home of the paranoid! "
Deano
2007-01-24 14:03:41 UTC
Have always had my passport for travelling outside Canada, but after my experiences see how they treat my Mexican bore wife I now avoid setting foot in the U.S. So the new rules do not change much for me.
CapnCrunch
2007-01-24 15:14:11 UTC
It is incredible how gullible Canadians do not get that this is the first step towards getting everyone an ID card that will eventually be changed to an ID with biometrics that will allow any government to control the population more easily.



Protest too loudly? We will find you.



Putting together an opposition party? We will find you.



You don't think it's true?Then why do the police currently film any protest going on in the streets - to have a file on you.



Yes, but we are law abidding citizens? Sure, ask Maher Arar how he got tortured in Syria because of a "mistake" by both Canadian and US government?



And how he can't get his name off a watch list now...if you still think this is about preventing terrorism then you should be filed, in the gullible file.
Randy Lutic
2007-01-24 14:07:25 UTC
Not at all. I am a ligitimate canadian who traveled often to the US before the rules and alway foud it more convenient to have a passport. It was good to have before,and necessary now.



I always see people at the boarder trying to lye, cheat and trick their way accross the boarder. They usually got caught, and now will have one more reason to be stopped.



Basically if you have not broken the rules, you are ok, otherwise, you deserve to be caught because all us who do follow the rules respect the structure of our free society ... a free society with boundries ... yes, it is not anarchy, it is a society with values and limits, and I thing all this over zellous "right" stuff is redicuolous. Sometimes the right of individuals are of lesser import that the greater good or society ... otherwise we would be living in anarchy!
Canuc
2007-01-24 15:08:49 UTC
Living so close to the border I used to cross over often and been in many states over the years I have no desire anymore because of the hassel and tighter security in place at the border Canada has much to offer and places I wish to see through out our provinces You just make it tougher for tourists for business people who cross daily to either side Feeling safe comes with a price .... lost revenue..... What once was is gone and I have excepted that
ppiiaannoo2002
2007-01-24 15:19:13 UTC
LET'S USE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY, PLEASE. EXCUSE ME, BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HAVING YOUR CITIZENSHIP EXPIRE, UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND YOU ARE BEING DEPORTED FROM CANADA TO YOUR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN WHERE YOU HAD CITIZENSHIP PRIOR TO BECOMING A CANADIAN. A PERSON BORN IN CANADA CANNOT HAVE HIS OR HER CITIZENSHIP EXPIRE UNLESS HE OR SHE ACQUIRES CITIZENSHIP ELSEWHERE. AN EXPIRED PASSPORT IS A DIFFERENT THING. AND ACTUALLY, IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, YOU CAN GET A SHORT TERM PASSPORT OVERNIGHT FOR A REAL EMERGENCY (MEDICAL, DEATH IN THE FAMILY, WAR EMERGENCY, ETC.) FROM ANY PASSPORT OFFICE IN CANADA OR ANY CANADIAN PASSPORT OFFICE INTERNATIONALLY. AND BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CANADIAN PASSPORT. SUCH A DOCUMENT IS A REAL PRIVILEGE. STOLEN CANADIAN PASSPORTS IN CENTRAL AMERICA ARE SOLD, SO I HEAR, FOR UP TO $60,000 U.S. ON THE BLACK MARKET.



And I see that you are insisting that 20,000 Canadians have unknowingly lost their citizenship> how? Also, I hate to break it to you but you cannot stop your passport from expiring. You can only apply for a new one. Watch the expiry date. Passport expiry is not citizenship expiry.
lavenderskies
2007-01-24 15:08:37 UTC
You mean a VALID passport wasn't required before?? LOL
berky72
2007-01-24 15:06:15 UTC
I think the rulling shows canada is too soft. If we canadians need a passport to get into the states , then they should need one to come here.
navyercan2000
2007-01-24 15:04:14 UTC
WHAT CAN I SAY (USA) I AM PROUD TO BE CANADIAN!!!!!!
ixlforu
2007-01-24 14:57:13 UTC
Re: Lost Canadians - Seems to be, yet another, Libby SNAFU coming to bite law abiding Canadian citizens right in the butt.
expositors
2007-01-24 14:56:26 UTC
Passports are fine IF YOU CAN GET ONE...!



Just apply, and then forget about it.
Debbie F
2007-01-24 14:49:54 UTC
I believe this will make entering the U.S. faster and more secure.



This has been coming for some time now and people should have been better prepared!
annikka88
2007-01-24 14:48:59 UTC
Passports are actually really handy to have; I've had one all my life. Then, if you ever feel like unexpectidly going somewhere else that requires one, you're set!

So the new laws won't affect me!M:D
Francis O
2007-01-24 14:40:42 UTC
I am a Canadian citizen .I posses a valid Canadian passport.
Stacey S
2007-01-24 14:36:59 UTC
It sucks. My husbands family of 17 are planning a trip to DisneyWorld for the beginning of February. We all applied for our passports early in October. My sister-in-law has received all her passports for her family but hasn't received the one for her 7 year old. It was returned to her in November because she had forgot to sign it in one spot. Her visa was charged for it in Dec but when she phone to check on the status she was told it was sitting in review. My sister-in-law and neice will have to take the bus to Minneapolis to catch the plane for Orlando. That means a 17 hour drive for them.
meathead
2007-01-24 14:21:23 UTC
It is no problem!!!!... It will help to speed up lines for entry as all will be on required to have one..... As far As the cost for the passport I agree with the initial cost but for renewal at the 5 years I feel it is a little high since the government already has all the info on you already in there systems.

yours always

M>M>M
anonymous
2007-01-24 14:24:28 UTC
This will be no change for me as I have always used my passport when travelling to the U.S.
Michel A
2007-01-24 14:25:38 UTC
I disagree with our government agreeing with U.S.A for such a requirement.Where or what is the problem?I could understand such a requirement at the Mexico-U.S.A. borders for illegal immigrants or workers,but for us????


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