Question:
Do you think that supporters of the McCanns?
2009-10-08 05:27:29 UTC
....are trying to stifle debate?

I mean the McCann's are fame obsessed and pay agents to plant themselves in the national press, for no good reason really because everyone has seen the Madeleine pictures over the last two years. However critics of the McCann's behaviour are being labeled 'obsessives' as if we spend every minute thinking about the case, which isn't true. We get told to 'move on' although as I've said, it is an ongoing current event.

Furthermore I've noticed people are reporting perfectly reasonable questions.
Eighteen answers:
Skidoo
2009-10-08 05:40:46 UTC
What you say makes no sense whatsoever.



Any fame seeking fule kno that controversy and debate is what gets them in the news - ask 'Lady GaGa' or any half dressed poptart 'caught' falling out of a club drunk - so stifling debate by 'planting' agents would be stupid *if* fame was what they were after.



However, their 'fame' is entirely connected to the disappearance of their daughter and their only public activities are connected to the search for her and for other missing children.



You lot don't seem to be able to get past the fact that they made a mistake - and have admitted to it and said they will regret it as long as they live - and their daughter vanished into thin air.



None of us actually know what happened to her. Not even Amaral *really* knows because if he did he would act on that knowledge rather than trying to cash in on it - surely?



EDIT - Stormy - you may have a point.



EDIT2 - McHeed would you stake your life on their guilt and if so, why? Why this rather than the countless examples of actual harm, long term abuse and murder committed by parents in the news every day?
2016-12-17 16:33:10 UTC
Any form of abuse or profanity isn't acceptable in spite of if from the McCann sympathisers (i don't see every physique helping the McCanns in leaving their babies unattended) or from the anti-McCanns. i think of extremely everyone seems to be lashing out because of the fact the completed difficulty has fairly touched us all. CT, you're able to do properly to understand that a number of the anti-McCanns have additionally been extremely rude & downright insulting noticeably commonly. BTW, i'm begining to believe what i examine sometime in the past that a thumbs up relies upon on conformity & not on content cloth. in spite of in no way ever making use of profanity or perhaps being overly blunt, i've got been reported & hidden continuously, in simple terms b'cos i variety from you anti-McCanns. Am as ill & bored to death in this attitude to boot...healthy debate, huh?
bosque
2016-12-11 21:50:40 UTC
Any variety of abuse or profanity isn't ideal however if from the McCann sympathisers (i do no longer see absolutely everyone helping the McCanns in leaving their toddlers unattended) or from the anti-McCanns. i think of everybody is lashing out by using fact the excellent subject has somewhat touched us all. CT, you may do nicely to understand that a number of the anti-McCanns have additionally been somewhat impolite & downright insulting especially in many circumstances. BTW, i'm begining to believe what i examine sometime in the past that a thumbs up relies upon on conformity & no longer on content fabric. regardless of in no way ever using profanity or maybe being overly blunt, i've got been stated & hidden continually, in basic terms b'cos i fluctuate from you anti-McCanns. Am as sick & fed up in this techniques-set to boot...healthful debate, huh?
2009-10-08 09:20:33 UTC
Yes D, and in no way do you sound ridiculous.The only ridiculous deluded people on this debate are Michael,who was exposed 2 years ago as a relative,Skidoo who has to be right about everything,and Essex Ron who claims to be an ex cop.I dont mind saying I think Maddy's parents killed her,its a free country and I am entitled to my opinion I have seen evidence,papers and interviews on the McCanns,and also spoken to people who have a vested interest in proving the McCanns are guilty.I refer you supporters to my question of yesterday,in which I asked what your reaction would be having found your 3 year old missing,the majority said, hysterical,running around looking,still running around looking days after, not pimping themselves to Sky News, jogging and playing tennis.As McHeed said, if I am wrong I will apologise,but very much doubt the supporters would,they'd be too busy screaming fit up.
Corneilius
2009-10-08 06:28:43 UTC
No I just have not heard one solid piece of 'evidence' that has stood up to scrutiny.



I know many people 'believe' that the McCann's killed their daughter, and that's their right. The problem I have is that a belief is not a fact. Many people express their belief as unquestionable facts, and anyone who questions their beliefs is seen as an enemy. That is some pretty forceful group dynamics at work.



I neither support nor attack the McCanns, there is not enough evidence for me to believe they committed a crime. Innocent until proven guilty, so until some piece of evidence comes to light which proves their guilt they should be presumed innocent.



Oh and I really have much more pressing things I would sooner talk about than a 20 month old murder/abduction investigation
2009-10-08 07:32:10 UTC
I think you will find that a lot of the people that are 'pro-McCann' believe they did nothing to directly harm their little girl and loved her dearly - but probably don't agree 100% with the way they are handling themselves. I also believe they were wrong to leave the kids alone - but understand that sometimes parents can make mistakes.



When the McCann's were travelling around spreading word of their daughters disappearance - I was all for it. If (god forbid) it was my child, I would travel the world every week if I thought it would help me find them. I don't like the money making side of it though.



As for the 'Anti-McCann's' on here - I find it offensive to be told I'm stupid for believing that 2 professionals love their children. I also find it unnerving how many of you make personal comments about 2 people who have lost a child - in whatever circumstances.



If you want to start a hate campaign - leave the McCann's alone and focus on some proper evil b@stards like Baby P's parents.
,,
2009-10-08 05:39:00 UTC
Has there ever been a case discussed on here than has caused more divide?



I actually stopped answering the majority of the McCann questions due to the emails and remarks I got for saying that--In my opinion--they should have been prosecuted for child neglect (something I still think).



The supporters appear to think its ok to label this as ''a mistake'' and ''something everyone'' does---almost excusing it.



Like most other people I have no clue what happened to Maddie and that applies to those who support the McCanns and those who dont!
2009-10-08 07:09:46 UTC
If I am wrong in any of my opinions of the dynamic duo then I will gladly eat my words. Of coarse NO one can state categorically that they are innocent or guilty of killing the child and I have never stated that they did, but I do firmly believe that they are not telling the whole truth about what really did happen. If I am to be accused of being obsessed they my only obsession is that the child be found and the truth come out. That is not obsession but the need to see Maddie alive or the guilty party brought to book.



The McCann's have done themselves no favours whatsoever by refusing to answer important questions and by their behaviour since that dreadful day. If Kate has nothing to fear then why does she not publish the answers to those questions? The duo are sending out all the wrong messages concerning their innocence and are not making any attempt whatsoever to clear things up by being brutally honest about their involvement. By keeping discussion alive we are keeping the need for answers alive and that just maybe help to find Maddie. Forget about it then the culprit/s walk free and unchallenged.
Helen S
2009-10-08 07:59:33 UTC
No, but they don't like accusations of murder being printed here, there and everywhere and neither do Yahoo - have you never wondered why so many of the abusive ones are removed? There will come a day when the lawyers will take action and Yahoo would not like to be seen as being complaisant. It's ok to have an opinion but it is not ok to accuse someone of murder.
2009-10-08 05:44:55 UTC
The thing is Deighton, these so called McCann supporters can't have a debate anyway.They tell others not to believe the press,so where do they get their information from? And they seem to ignore the fact that the official police files are available online for all to see.

All over Europe the press run information from these files without any fear of repercussion because IT IS the official findings, but not this country - I wonder why?
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2009-10-08 07:20:20 UTC
basically the mc cann supporters can not see that earning a fortune , neglecting babies , refusing to answer questions and the explanation for the forensic Evidence found by the sniffer dogs is unsatisfactory



they keep telling people who support madeline mc cann to stop asking questions and calling these people cruel for being concerned and wanting Justice for a 3 year old child

bizarre
melanieb1985
2009-10-08 05:40:11 UTC
I cannot understand anyone who would support people who prefer going out to drink and eat with friends than to take care of their own flesh and blood.



But yes, their supporters are trying to stifle debate. I'm being called names sometimes when I state the fact that they left their kids alone in that hotel room. We are bad people for mentioning that fact.
stacey
2009-10-08 08:00:13 UTC
of course they want to stifle debate ,they want only the mc canns version of the events to be written



the mc canns should face court proceedings over the neglect of their 3 children , anybody else would be..... they should not be in charge of this investigation , the whole faceade /circus is wrong and a betrayal of madeline mc cann
2009-10-08 06:31:22 UTC
these people really make my blood boil they leave there children alone they have in the past used sedation were there children are concerned they escape prosecution in the case of neglect they try to silence people who want to speak the truth about them its there word or nobodys word i really hope maddie safe and well .
Link strikes back
2009-10-08 05:47:14 UTC
I'm starting to become convinced that there are people on both sides of opinion that are more concerned with winning the argument that has broken out than the actual occurrence.
SBD
2009-10-08 05:42:01 UTC
No, it's just that there isn't a debate to be had. At least, not a sensible one.



What's the point of discussing something when not one single person anywhere in the world TRULY knows what happened to her - apart from the person who took her out of that room and no one knows who s/he is, or where s/he is. So it's pointless. Discussing pointless things is boring and nonsensical.



Innocent until proven guilty. And that's all there is to it.
michael w
2009-10-08 05:51:15 UTC
Neil has said it all "Innocent until proved guilty" who why are there people who still want the McCanns brought to court.? To do this one needs clear evidence something the authorities do not have One day when Maddie is finally found these accusers will have to eat their own words or will they then just find another excuse to hurl at the McCanns,?
stormy!
2009-10-08 05:36:21 UTC
Hmm I'm beginning to think people are trolling, to create outrageous persona's, to send abuse, and so to tar all supporters with that same brush!


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