Question:
Why are people blaming Israel instead of the Hamas?
2014-07-21 16:09:43 UTC
I don't understand how some people are appalled that Israel invaded Gaza and that they are carrying out air strikes against Gaza. Gaza attacked Israelis, Israel prevented them with their Iron Dome, then ask them to stop, when they don't, they attack them back and kill their civilians. When the Hamas still refuse to stop, Israel invades Gaza to take out their rockets and tunnels.

Isn't Israel justified for these actions? What wrong are they doing?

What is the defense of the people who support Gaza or think that what Israel is doing is wrong?
Ten answers:
qqtip2001
2014-07-21 16:41:06 UTC
It is always a bad "optic" to see innocent children killed during wartime...thus the saying "War is Hell". I think that when someone bombs you relentlessly, then protecting yourself is the only rational thing to do. The fault belongs to Hamas and the dirty way they play war. It is also the fault of good Muslims who do nothing to rid their countries of radical extremists. Change can only come from within. Israel is right to think that radicals want to wipe them off the face of the earth. At least their leader, unlike Obama, sees the future with a cold, clear reality that firms his resolve to fight back against an evil terror that threatens to destroy anyone and everything in the free world. Anyone who doesn't realize this is being an ostrich.
TK
2014-07-21 18:41:08 UTC
There are a lot of Jew-haters in the world and it is coming out more and more as the Islamic people increase their numbers and their influence on world politics.

What many people don't want to realize is that the Israel population is full of Druze, Bedouin, Christians, Persians and Arabs as well as Jews. In fact, there are non-Jew casualties among the Israelis.
TS
2014-07-21 19:34:12 UTC
There is no justification in the world Israel can give for killing kids. Even if it means they have to stop and apologize/compensate.



The world knows this isn't going to happen. This war (if you can call it that) can only stop with Israel taking the lead role. Again, it's becoming clearer to the world Israel is thinking otherwise.



2 wrongs will never make it right and I hate bully type nations!
?
2014-07-22 10:44:35 UTC
Hahaha. Guess who made Hamas. Israel. To stop the PLO. They're now a victim of their own creation.



Sucks to be a horrid Zionist
Satellite Eyes
2014-07-21 22:35:33 UTC
Israel does not and will not ever have a proper justification for intentionally bombing civilians, bombing women and children, bombing hospitals and ambulences, bombing four little boys playing on a beach.



There is NO justification. This is not a matter of Israel vs. Palestine. Or Israel vs. Hamas. Or Jew vs. Arab. It's a matter of humanity. A matter of mercy. Israel lacks humanity and mercy. What is happening in Gaza proves it.
darren m
2014-07-21 17:25:46 UTC
Consider the book by NAOMI KLEIN ABOUT DISASTER Capitalism which describes gangster capitalism originating in Chicago economics University espousing privatization of services of planet as the source behind terrorism.It has even privatized anti-terrorism as defined terrorism economists do not wage.The Golan Group in an international conference has assisted F.B.I. and other interested security types.The terroristsfrom chogaco espouse an applying shock doctrine of torture,murder,and rape to non privatized nations.South America saw the results with pinochets torture murdr regime.HAITLER AND THE nazis were another bunch backed by these policies.sure people claim Htler not corporatist but fascism requires corporate attitudes to work and contempt for human rights.
Shawn Robin
2014-07-22 13:05:50 UTC
Because people are ignorant of WHY civilians are dying in Gaza.

It's solely because the Hamas government wants its own people dead.

It wants them dead because dead civilians have more propaganda value than live ones.



That's why Hamas uses civilian areas to launch rocket attacks on Israel from.

That's why Hamas uses civilians as human shields in areas Israel warned them to evacuate from.

That's why Hamas tries to provoke a military response with all those rocket attacks.



It's all about swaying global public opinion and nothing does it better than blaming Israel for all the dead Palestinian civilians.

One problem with that plan is that what Hamas is doing constitutes war crimes under international law.

Another problem is that the stupid retards have repeatedly confessed to committing the war crime of using human shields.



'Hamas Spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri: Human-Shield Policy Is Effective '

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6S0-o3uFI



'Hamas using Palestinians as human shields: 'We desire Death as you desire Life'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs



'United Nations: Most Gaza Casualties Were Warned by IDF to Leave Targeted Buildings in Advance'

Link - http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/10/united-nations-most-gaza-casualties-were-warned-by-idf-to-leave-targeted-buildings-in-advance/



'Human shields are Hamas’s PR'

Link - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/human-shields-are-hamass-pr/article19602451/



'Hamas Is Using Civilians as Human Shields but Its Latest Directive Is the Most Shocking'

Link - http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/10/hamas-is-using-civilians-as-human-shields-but-its-latest-directive-is-the-most-shocking/



'Hamas’s Human Shield War'

Link - http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/07/10/hamas-human-shield-war-gaza-israel-missiles/



'Hamas Encourages Civilians to Ignore Warnings & Act as Human Shields'

Link - http://thenavigatoronline.com/2014/07/15/hamas-encourages-civilians-to-ignore-warnings-act-as-human-shields/#.U8bYzLGGfLA



'IDF Tells Gaza Residents to Leave; Hamas Intimidates Them Into Staying'

Link - http://www.thetower.org/0716-idf-tells-gaza-residents-to-leave-hamas-intimidates-them-into-staying/



'Getting the law right on the Israel-Hamas conflict'

Link - http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/211931-getting-the-law-right-on-the-israel-hamas-conflict#ixzz37ezLH2BO



'Gaza/Israel: Hamas Rocket Attacks on Civilians Unlawful'

Link - http://www.hrw.org/news/2009/08/06/gazaisrael-hamas-rocket-attacks-civilians-unlawful



Why anyone could be dumb enough to support those halfwit war criminals is a mystery.

It only makes them look like idiots for trying to stick up for those Hamas terrorists.
Fernando
2014-07-21 16:32:37 UTC
They are both misbehaving. Israel wants an excuse to take more, Gaza keeps giving them an excuse to. They both need to cut their crap out but that won't happen anytime soon.
?
2014-07-21 16:23:40 UTC
Hamas thinks they are right. When you base your life on religion this is what happens.
2014-07-21 17:04:41 UTC
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/16/israels-goliath-to-palestines-david/ 'I do respond. I am a proud Jew; my wife reads Torah in our Saturday morning minyan. But I am a Jew of another generation, one involved in the civil rights and antiwar movements, one who experienced American Jewry as a progressive force.

I see Israel as a disgrace to the eloquence, humanity, and social justice of Judaism as a world religion and global ethical experience. Not Neo-Cons of today itching for war, not American Jews and Israelis alike, who see Palestinians as vermin and worse (Golda’s famous remark about Schwarzas), not Mossad with its assassinations, not the Israel of today who use disproportionate force to enforce the degradation of another people.

If thing go hard with Israel on the international scene, it won’t be because of so-called “self-hating Jews,” the way Israelis and AIPAC described all Jewish critics of Israeli policies and actions, but God who punishes Jews who commit murder in His name.'



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine 'I write as someone who served loyally in the Israeli army in the mid-1960s and who has never questioned the legitimacy of the state of Israel within its pre-1967 borders. What I utterly reject is the Zionist colonial project beyond the Green Line. The Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip in the aftermath of the June 1967 war had very little to do with security and everything to do with territorial expansionism. The aim was to establish Greater Israel through permanent political, economic and military control over the Palestinian territories. And the result has been one of the most prolonged and brutal military occupations of modern times.'





http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/04/tax-dollars-detroit-and-israel/

‘But’, the august, so-called representatives of the U.S. citizenry will proclaim, ‘Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, a major ally of the U.S., and therefore must be supported’. Really? One wonders why this ally not only refuses to cooperate with the U.S.’s hapless and insincere efforts to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine, but actually spits in the face of the U.S., as it accepts $9 million a day. When the joke of peace talks is announced, with the U.S. saying neither side should do anything to jeopardize them, Israel announces more illegal settlements. When the United Nations proposes condemning increased settlement-building, which the U.S. has stated it believes to be in violation of international law, Israel knows it can rely on the U.S. to veto any such resolution. When the U.S. hypocritically decries the human rights abuses so prevalent around the world, Israel knows that it is exempt from any such condemnation, if it only brutally abuses Palestinians.'

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/21/on-human-shielding-in-gaza/

JULY 21, 2014. How the Israeli Army has Tried to Justify Striking Civilian Areas

On ‘Human Shielding’ in Gaza . All fighting within cities and all bombardments of urban spaces, even the most “precise and surgical”, is a potential death trap for civilians. Consequently, the permeation of war into cities inevitably transforms their inhabitants into potential human shields.

For Palestinians living in Gaza today, simply spending time in their own homes, frequenting a mosque, going to a hospital or to school has become a dangerous enterprise since any one of these architectural edifices can become at any moment a target. One can no longer safely assume that the existence of masses of human bodies – even the bodies of children – in civilian spaces can serve as defence of the weak against the lethal capacity of the hi-tech states.

“Where do Gaza terrorists hide their weapons?”

But since hi-tech states can and do kill hundreds or thousands of civilians, they have to provide moral justification for their action in order to preserve their standing in the international arena; they have to demonstrate that they are protecting the principles of liberal democracy. It is precisely within this context that we should understand the series of posters recently disseminated by the Israeli military through its Twitter account, Facebook and blogs.

The poster “Where do Gaza Terrorists Hide Their Weapons” is a paradigmatic example, where the subtext does the speaking: Houses, mosques, schools, and hospitals are legitimate targets because they are presumed to be weapon depositories.

When is a house a home?”

This is also the message in “When Is A House a Home?” which simply zooms in on one of the images in the previous poster, showing how Palestinians presumably hide rockets in civilian homes.

The logic is straightforward: insofar as Hamas hides weapons in houses (illegitimate), Israel can bomb them as if they were military targets (legitimate). Within this framework, a single function (hiding weapons) out of many existing functions (home, shelter, intimacy, etc) determines the status of an urban site (in our case the house), so that the edifice’s form loses its traditional signification.

The question “when does it become a legitimate military target?” is merely rhetorical. Its real meaning is: “All houses in Gaza are legitimate targets” since all houses are potentially non-homes.

“Israel uses weapons to protect its civilians”

Not unlike colonial as well as other vastly asymmetrical wars, Israel’s legitimisation for its indiscriminate bombing is premised upon a profound moral disjuncture between Israelis and Palestinians. In the poster “Israel uses weapon to protect its civilians. Hamas uses civilians to protect its weapons”, Palestinians are depicted as barbarians who ignore the elementary grammar of international law.

Israel’s warfare is, however, not only about the re-signification of architectural structures, but also about the transformation of human beings into collateral damage, subjects who can be killed without violating international law. This is the subtext of the poster featuring Israel’s Chief of Staff saying: “Even as we carry out strikes, we remember that there are civilians in Gaza. Hamas has turned them into hostages.”

“We remember that there are civilians in Gaza”

Again, the logic is clear. All civilians in Gaza are being held hostage by Hamas, which is considered a war crime and a gross violation of international law governing armed conflict. This, then, provides legal and moral justification against the accusation that Israel is the one killing civilians. Presumed human rights violations carried out by Palestinians against Palestinians - taking hostages and human shielding – thus become the legitimisation of lethal and indiscriminate violence on the part of the occupying force.

Hence, the use of human shields is not only a violation. In contemporary asymmetric urban wars, accusing the enemy of using human shields helps validate the claim that the death of ”untargeted civilians” is merely collateral damage. When all civilians are potential human shields, when each and every civilian can become a hostage of the enemy, then all enemy civilians become killable.

“Some bomb shelters shelter people…”

In order for all this to be convincing, the Israeli military depicts the asymmetric context in which it unleashes its violence against a whole population as symmetric. This is carried out, for instance, through the poster “Some bomb shelters shelter people, some shelter bombs”. Here a radically disproportionate situation is presented as if it were balanced.

The residents of Gaza are bombed by cutting edge F-16 fighter jets and drones, yet they do not have bomb shelters, and they have nowhere to flee. Israel’s residents are bombed mostly by makeshift rockets, many of which have been intercepted by Iron Dome missiles. The majority of the population in Israel has access to shelters and can flee out of the rocket’s range.

These powerful images, spread by the Israeli military through social media, attempt to transform the very presence of civilians as suspect in the areas it bombards, regardless of the fact that the areas it bombs are urban centres.

The crux of the matter is that in the context of contemporary asymmetric warfare, the weak do not have many options. When there are no bomb shelters, people remain at home during extensive bombardment. And if, like in the case of the Palestinians in Gaza, fleeing is not an option – because all exits from the strip have been closed, or because the neighbour’s house is under the exact same threat as one’s own, or because one is already a refugee and does not want to become a refugee anew – staying put, which the high-tech states term “illegal human shields,” constitutes a form of resistance.'



423] Congressional Wiki Re-Writes, Live From Gaz…: http://youtu.be/TUeTtpUSPgc

At 5.27 just how little land is left for Palestinian'

The Gaza Bombardment - What You're Not Being Told: http://youtu.be/iXRO1YFreNA

Gaza Under Siege: http://youtu.be/OJDUFhNnwbg



How Israel kills. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/


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