Is Jack Straw a complete hypocrite ??? Ronnie Biggs/ Michael Shields? Why intervene only in certain cases ?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Is Jack Straw a complete hypocrite ??? Ronnie Biggs/ Michael Shields? Why intervene only in certain cases ?
Seventeen answers:
2009-07-02 02:55:02 UTC
Jack Straw is one of 430 MP's who were caught fiddling their expenses and stealing off the taxpayers.He was forced to repay the money and issue an apology.. so in plain language he' a thief !!! Now he's condemned Ronnie Biggs, a pathetic old man of 79 , to rot in jail for a crime commited 46 years ago while the MP 's caught stealing will not serve a single day in jail. Justice or plain vindictiveness ?????
2009-07-02 02:42:05 UTC
in my opinion Jack Straw is a complete hypocrite after all Ronnie Biggs is hardly a threat to anyone now some how i don't think he will be committing anymore crimes
2009-07-02 08:26:07 UTC
It's Zionists like Straw and NWO puppets like his partner in crime against humanity such as B'Liar who should be pleading for and refused any pardon.
2009-07-02 05:30:35 UTC
He is a politician after all. They all are hippos, submerged in smugness and deceit.
Pheemz
2009-07-02 03:01:14 UTC
The problem, I suspect, is that pardoning someone convicted by a foreign court after that conviction has been upheld at appeal twice is a diplomatic minefield. It wouldn't just involve Bulgaria, it would bring in every UK citizen who's tried abroad. Would countries be willing to let UK citizens serve their sentences in Britain if Straw goes around pardoning them?
2009-07-02 02:49:55 UTC
no just a moron. to be slightly fair to him there have been a number of high profile incidents of late, and some pr expert has probably advised him that a tough stand will look good in the media,so much for case by case eh.
Misty Blue
2009-07-02 09:09:11 UTC
Much as I sympathise with Mr. Sheild's plightI have to agree with Pheemz on this one.There's more at stake to consider.
As for Biggs you need only read dee's answer to see how far reaching his crime was.The lengths to which this man and his associates went to avoid justice merit the lengthy sentence and it's a measure of the man's arrogance that even now, despite the pain his actions caused, he refuses to be remorseful.Might that be because he isn't?Fine.......he can sit and stew.
2009-07-02 04:17:26 UTC
Ronnie Biggs is one of Britain's political prisoners. Uniquely (I think) in the western world our home secretary gets to decide when someone can be released from prison. This power came about when we abolished capital punishment. If we aren't going to bring back the death penalty then I'd rather that our judges had the power to give people sentences of 150 years so that life sentences did mean life sentences.
Believe?
2009-07-02 04:09:23 UTC
Wouldn't be surprised if he overruled the parole board just to stick two fingers up to Biggs for taking the mickey out of the British government for all those years. Biggs has led a reprehensible life but what harm would it do anyone to let out a dying old man who apparently can't speak or eat? Was about to say it'd be the civilised thing to do, but after today's news that we're the most violent nation in Europe, maybe we're not as civilised as we like to think
2009-07-02 03:59:30 UTC
i am glad jack straw has done what hes done. Biggs committed a crime, fled the country and only came back for free health care, not because he felt he needed to repay his debt to Society. My great grandfather was working on that train, he got death threats and other things done to him to stop him testify at the trial. The stress caused him to have a massive stroke and heart attack. My great grandfather and his wife, my nan and my mums life have all been ruined through that man and his partners, (my mum was took away from all her friends and family at 12 to be moved up to london to care for my great grandad.). Biggs should die in prison, i applaud jack straw
2009-07-02 03:12:02 UTC
Straw's not supposed to be able to overrule the parole board like this, my boss just told me. My bosses wife is a psychiatrist on a parole board, believe it or not they refuse parole for many people, their criteria is risk to the public.
old grumpy
2009-07-02 04:13:43 UTC
Here is a man who holds the title of Minister for Justice. All he has been doing is sitting on the fence when the public demanded that he acted in his capacity on some of the soft sentencing imposed on violent sex offenders and child murderers
Now he has made what he probably considers an important statement, by over-riding recommendations of a parole board but also denying an 80 year old dying man to die with some dignity.
Please don't think for one minute that I am a supporter of Biggs,his crime was committed against the state which is not allowed and judging by the sentence proves the case.
The fact that he escaped initially should be a question put to his captors as to how..
Corneilius
2009-07-02 07:44:36 UTC
When it comes to Liverpool Deighton is wrong
No change here then.
Shields had an alibi at the time of the assault, he was arrested because he fitted the description of the assailant, was made to put on a white shirt similar to one witnesses described the assailant wore, and was then lead into an identity parade past the same witnesses.
All that is simply illegal in this country, but is common practice in countries which have a cavalier regard to justice.
Finally, earlier this year the campaign team for Micheal were contacted by an independent couple from Yorkshire who reported a strange conversation they had with a Bulgarian policeman whilst on holiday in Turkey. They were told that as far as the Bulgar's are concerned it doesn't matter who is found guilty of the crime as long as its someone who fits the criteria I.E white English football fan.
They were able to identify the policeman they spoke to from film of the trial as one of the lead policemen in the investigation
Margaret
2016-04-03 13:12:21 UTC
Hi Mick Justice forms the framework of a society. This continually evolves and changes in response to public demand and pressure from minority groups. How justice is applied should be tempered with mercy. How does our actions impose on the individual who is being judged? Sure, Ronnie Biggs cocked a snook at UK law. He took financial advantage wherever he could. He left his haven when he had suffered strokes and needed long term care - via the UK's NHS. Wherever he receives his medical care now is of little importance to Ronnie Biggs. He is an old, sick and dying man. If mercy is to be exercised then he should be transferred to a specialist care unit. Does it really matter if this is in prison or a private care home? Best wishes.
Helen S
2009-07-02 03:32:48 UTC
You got it absolutely right! - self aggrandisement! Straw, a man of straw. Mind you, i wouldn't let Biggs out either - he only has to say i'm sorry, that's all, show a bit of remorse, after all he's not being asked to repay the money he stole nor will he care about the millions of taxpayers pounds spent on getting him into and keeping scum like him in jail.
2009-07-02 03:23:52 UTC
Yes
My recollection is that Jacks brother is on the sex offenders list and sister has been participating in bizarre "religious" practices.
2009-07-02 02:50:05 UTC
You cannot compare these two cases.
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