Question:
Is it justifiable to spend Rs.8000 Crores of Public Money to increase OBC quota seat in national instituitions
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Is it justifiable to spend Rs.8000 Crores of Public Money to increase OBC quota seat in national instituitions
24 answers:
jesus
2006-05-24 04:43:05 UTC
it is nothing bu vote bank politics followed by the successive govts. while one sector wants to appease the minorities the other tries to arm twist others in the name of majority religion.

the concept of reservation on caste basis is misplaced.

people are buying education these days - the really brilliant should have a place to hone their knowledge and build out country, we don't have any dearth of engineers or doctors - what we require is basic amen ties and infrastructure and compulsory primary education.

show your apprehensions, people should come out against populist policies, never be shrouded by short term gains.
mohit k
2006-05-22 11:26:36 UTC
I don't understand why govt is ready to invest 8000 crore in producing sub-standard final product rather than investing the same amount in creating a better raw material out of OBCs by giving standard education right from day one. Doesn't it look as if they are trying to create a rift between upper cast and lower cast especially when whole world has started taking us seriously. The decision of giving quotas is equivalent to the firing of Jaliawalabagh.
anusen1970
2006-05-22 10:25:23 UTC
absoulute nonsense and a criminal and filthy waste.
ganeshan
2006-05-22 09:41:29 UTC
No, never. If there is so much of money which can be spent, the same can be effectively spent for providing electricity and drinking water to so many people who live in the villages and remote areas.
dharap123
2006-05-22 04:55:42 UTC
First of all reservations on cast basis is not at all justifiable as well as legal.But to have vote bank only, politicians are not worried about national interest as well as quality and also human lives as no. of human lives is not low to fear about.
subbu
2006-05-28 18:10:01 UTC
Policy of the State for the welfare of the people. After all it was the money from public.
SANJAY
2006-05-25 09:15:58 UTC
NO iT IS NOT JUSTIFIABLE ACCORDING TO ME ALREADY THEY HAVE MADE RESERVATIONS COMPULSARY AS THERE IS NOTHING LIKE CAST TO DIFFERENCIATE BETWEN PEOPLES WHAT MATTERS IS THE ECONOMIC BACKGROUND OF THE PEOPLES IN THE COUNTRY GIVE RESERVATION TO PEOPLES WHO ARE ECONOMICALY BACK THEN TALK ABOUT THE BACKWARDS IN CAST WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS MAKING OUR LIFE A CHALLENGE TOO LIVE SINCE WE ALWAYS STRUGGLE FROM STRT OF CAREER TO THE JOB NOW AS THERE IS ALWAYS RESERVATION IN EVERY AREA?

APART FROM THIS I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING THAT IS ARE THE MERIT STUDENTS ALWAYS IN OPEN CATEGORY NO BUT IF PEOPLES GET ADMISSION IN OPEN CATEGORY HE/SHE SHOULD NOT ALLOT THE SEAT IN OBC BUT TODAY THE PEOPLES FROM THESE RESERVATION CAST ARE TAKING ADMISSION IN OPEN CATEGORY IF THEY HAVE MERIT AND LEFT THE RESERVATION SEAT FOR OTHER FROM THEIR CAST THIS IS OBSERVED TO SOLVE THIS ONE SHOULD MAKE CUMPUSARY CERTIFICATE FOR OPEN CATEGORY ALSO IT IS MUST OTHERWISE ANYBODY FROM OTHERS WILL TAKE ADMISSION FROM OPEN AND LEAVE THEIR SEAT FOR OTHER FROM THEIR CATEGORY.
shraddha
2006-05-24 08:33:08 UTC
According to me, the whole concept of quota is ridiculous. we all want the benefit of all Indians in general. but giving people the easy way out is only going to bring about our downfall. instead of spending 8000 crores on quota, the same money should be directed towards providing the lower-castes with resources that will allow them to come up. then they can be treated as just another educated person and they can gain admission on the basis of merit. also, providing quota will only give rise to discrimination in the country. if you keep reminding people that they belong to a particular caste, how will they forget caste and religion and think of everyone as just another human being?
incognito6174
2006-05-24 07:21:20 UTC
Do we really understand why reservations were introduced five decades back? It was to uplift the 'then' backward masses. Here,'backward' refers to those who were treated unjustly by other people back at that time, because of which they remained socially, educationally and economically deprived.

But in today's world, the new generation is meritocratic and does not believe in castes. Ask the people of the age group 20-40 and you will get your answer. So the policies applicable then, are definitely not applicable in today's scenario. I am not totally against reservations, but I want it to serve it's purpose. That means, those who really deserve the help, only must get it and not the other unscrupulous ones who don't deserve it. Reservations can be based on the economic status of a person and not because he is from a particular caste/class. A so-called backward caste/class student must be given reservations and fee waivers if he 'is' economically challenged but bright enough. If he is well-to-do, but still gets fee-waivers and admission into the top-notch colleges of the country, just because a piece of paper brands him a backward caste/class person, I think we have led India back to the Dark Ages with our own hands. People like me who slog it day in and day out to get into the best educational institutions, and finally because some one is "backward", he gets preference ahead of me and I get kicked out, it feels like sh**. He may be filthy rich, but doesn't have to pay a paisa on his education and I have to pay hefty fees; it is like I am paying on his behalf. It feels horrible to see a "backward caste/class" guy sitting next to you in an IIT in a quantum physics class when he doesn't even know Newton's first law, or for that matter in any good institution.

The recent attempt by the government to introduce the OBC reservation bill in a hurry(marked by violent protests by students throughout the country and heartless handling of the situation by the police), is just another ploy to garner more votes and stay in power! But sadly, the current breed of politicians seem to have misunderstood the current generation. They had better revise the entire policy of reservations before it's too late and something worse than a "Rang De Basanti" takes place! May the righteous win and the truth prevail(else we'll fight for it!) JAI HIND!
anonymous
2006-05-24 21:55:41 UTC
Reservation is the easiest way to garner votes. It may not be the best way to uplift the underpriviledged by killing merit and settling for mediocrity. Do u see any merit in any Govt department? or any Govt functioning? Its like talking about a bullet train to people who have never seen anything better than a bullock cart! Now they want to increase seats.

Alas! i wish increasing the seats in IIM and IIT would have been as easy as it is to make an Indian politician! Its so easy to make a politicians as it needs just a few lessons like

- How to commit murders and rapes

- How to take bribes

- How to screw up the country by bending and curcumventing rules

- How to act siphon of public money without being caught

- How to sell the country

- How to whip religeous, caste and separatist passions to garner votes

- How to rig elections



On the other hand IIT's and IIM's are world class institutes and they make best of the Engineers and the best of managers in the world. They create best infrestructure and have to device international standards of teaching with the best vrains as faculties so its not easy to increase evene a single seat without a long planning and upgradation of infrastructure.



The problem is that people like Arjun singh think that its as easy to make world class manager as its to make a Indian class politician. The fact is its much easier to make an Indian Neta but very difficult to make a Global Engineer or Manager
akshay k
2006-05-23 08:04:15 UTC
Absolutely not...

Spend the same amount in setting up the highest quality village schools and junior colleges so that the underprivileged can compete with the rest of the country. Another equally ridiculous suggestion is that general category seats will not be touched with the implementation of quotas. This means that though general category seats will be raised to offset quota , so will the number of OBC seats since we are talking in terms of percentage. The govt should teach these so called OBCs ABC before letting them enter institutes such as IITs,IIMs, AIIMS etc
TrueIndian
2006-05-23 21:04:15 UTC
First of all, is the estimate reasonable? Such a huge money to provide the additional quota? Or, Are they planning to open brand new institutions exclusively for such seats? Anyway, there are better ways of doing it. The money can be pooled from the contributions from the Politicians, Industries, Financial Institutions and other charity organisations. Otherwise, let the educational institutions host free education atleast for a few deserving students during every term. Better late than never, start aiding those students from the day one of their schooling, so that they can find their place in these institutions without any difficulty.
rahul
2006-05-23 04:51:25 UTC
first of all having reservation for them is not at all justifiable and that to 27% its really too much.with such an increase no seats r left 4 d general students so,it is not justifiable 2 spent such a huge amount of money to increase the quota.8000 crores can be spent 4 various other problems in the country
nikhil
2006-05-22 13:06:33 UTC
it is the most absurd and stupid decision that the government is contemplating. even after more than half a century of independence and reservation, its a shame that the govt still feels that the backward classes need its support to progress. lets not forget that the reservation system was introduced for a period of a decade only in the 50s but our vote bank hungry and self centered politicians have let it continue in its 6th decade. implementation of this decision will adverasely affect the tremendous growth the nation has show in the past decade. the money can be utilised better for improving the existing infrastructure in the country to make it compatible with the best in the world.
anatha_45
2006-05-23 13:58:31 UTC
It is the hard-earned tax-payer's money that the Govt want to invest. As many of us feel, it is vote-bank technique. Most of the multinationals are not in favour of this. The output quality would suffer if reservation continues. Instead, the Govt may abolish all the castes, communities and restrict religious practices as personal and declare "one-nation, one-education" and leave the job opportunities to the performance of the individuals. By offering concessions, the Govt promotes beggars. The multinationals, who have invested in India must raise to the occasion and convey their dissent. How long the politicians would ride on the religion/community horse?
Need me...
2006-05-22 17:21:48 UTC
Who the hell Arjun Singh and the others are to waste this huge amount of public money in this way? Do they want to make SC/St/OBC quota in human birth also? Man... this is total bullshit. In other words this crap plan of some idiots is just going to ruin the public health in future when an OBC doctor will tell his patint that " I'm not able to cure you because I passed all the exams because there was the damn quota system." And the patient...
ramv01
2006-05-22 08:55:00 UTC
Govt. is doing its duty. Our country is doing the best to improve the life standard of the OBCs. This rules are already there in Schools, Colleges & Govt. Companies etc., why not in National institutes? Why these guys didnt protest for Schools and Colleges.
ap
2006-05-22 13:12:57 UTC
It is absolutely ridiculous.The caste system was created and is being maintained by the politicians for their own benefits all along.If required give free education,free books,free accomodations,scholarships to students who deserve it but how can one ever think of reservation for non merit?/ reserving anything for that matter for anyone in the biggest democracy in the world.Where are we going?It defies all logic and no wonder Indians are ridiculed by people of other countries.
Kishak
2006-05-24 06:17:21 UTC
Reservation on caste basis is not at all acceptable. If the government is really concerned about people, it should help poor people to get quality education at primary level. It can also help a poor student with merit, by funding for his higher education.
AGAINST_QUOTA
2006-05-22 16:36:01 UTC
In an entrance exam for engineering college, I couldn't get admission with 110/300 marks while a quota student got admission to engineering college with -10 marks. Yes, they give you -ve marks for answering wrong. Do you think its fair?
ashokjayanti
2006-05-23 20:22:43 UTC
why doesn't anyone realise that the need is to provide quality nutrition to children-obc,bc,st,sc or even fc so that their brains develop adequately.then there would be no need to provide reservations.

the need of the hour is to lynch politicians as a class, the whole lot of them
lets think
2006-05-22 12:56:57 UTC
First of all Reservation on caste basis is just a vote bank trick. secondly Dr. Ambedkar when started reservation had told not to extend it beyond a specific period but our politician just to develop vote banks have been extending it. its never good to waste public money just to fill pockets of politicians.give them free educatio if the govt is so concerned let them get seats on their merits. who will be responsible for doctors who will kill patients just because they became doctors on reservation
Kamalpreet W
2006-05-24 04:52:39 UTC
and that too will take another 3-5 years ........spending hard earned money just for political reasons .......seems as if the congress doesnot wants to come to power again!!!
anonymous
2006-05-23 07:26:32 UTC
NO.IN ANY CASE IT'S NOT. THE PROBLEM IS MADARCHOD POLITICIANS OF OUR COUNTRY. IN LOGON KI MOTHER KI CHUT MAIN BAND CHATRI DAL KAR KHOL DENI CHAHIYE.

DESH KE GADDARON KO GOLI MARO SALON KO.


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