Question:
Does Israel really build homes on Palestinian territory?
marker853
2011-02-16 21:00:39 UTC
Please excuse my ignorance, I keep hearing that Israel builds settlements on Palestinian territory, is this true? If yes then don't the Israelis see the effect this will have on trying to make peace. Building on somebody elses property is probably one of the biggest NO-NO's Can some one explain whats going on?
Fourteen answers:
Ⅿ❂✖ⅈ℮
2011-02-16 22:13:59 UTC
Actually it started in 1922 with the British Mandate of Palestine http://timelines.com/1922/british-mandate-of-palestine-approved Palestinian land has been shrinking ever since.
Ben O
2011-02-16 21:56:54 UTC
The Israel government does not sanction building houses on Palestinian territory, but some Israeli citizens cross the boarder and build settlements in Palestinian territory. Years ago, the Israeli government would occasionally send in the army to remove a few of these unauthorized settlers and demolish their homes as a symbolic gesture, but they haven't done anything like this in a long time.



Some religious zealots like NJ believe that God promised west Jerusalem to the Jews 3000 years ago so they have a god given right to take it by force if necessary.



Some people on both sides don't want peace and don't want to stop fighting until one side or the other is eliminated.
affinity292
2011-02-17 07:25:58 UTC
That claim is not quite true. It is more complicated than that. Here are the main issues.



The West Bank and Gaza had many Jews living there in 1948.

In 1948, Jordan invaded and ethnically cleansed all Jews living there and seized the land.

In 1967, Jordan attacked Israel and lost the WB and Gaza to Israel.

Jordan later renounced their claim to the West Bank and Gaza.



Palestinian Arabs WANT to have the WB and Gaza as part of a state.



Currently, the land belongs to no country. Under UN SC Res 242, the land is in legal limbo (in terms of belonging to a country) and may be administered by Israel until and unless all relevant parties peacefully negotiate final status borders.



"sovereignty" and "ownership" are different issues.

Sovereignty is about what country has rights to control a place.

"Ownership" is about who owns a particular plot of land.



Most of the "settlements" are built on land that is either Jewish owned private property OR government owned land.



However, the Palestinian Arabs claim that because they want to have all the WB and Gaza, that any Jew living anywhere on it, even if it is private property owned by a Jew or public land not owned by any individual, is an act of war and obstacle to peace.



Others argue that just because Arabs ethnically cleansed the Jews from the WB and Gaza in 1948 doesn't mean they get to keep it Jew free just because they want it to be so.



Pro Palestinians argue: the land is "palestinian" and so Israel is "taking" palestinian land.



Pro Israelis argue: it is not palestinian land. It is open land whose final status is open to negotiations. And having someone live there is irrelevant to the process. Jews are living on Jewish or public property. If the land ends up going to a Palestinian state either they can accept Jews living there (after all, 20% of all Israelis are Arab Israelis) or Israel can move them as they moved the settlers off of land that Israel gave to the PA already.
2011-02-16 22:11:38 UTC
It is not your ignorance we must excuse. It is NJ's. Die, misinformed right wing nuts, die.



Yes, Israel builds settlements in the West Bank, which is controlled by Fatah and the Palestinian Authority. These settlements and the roads that run through Palestinian land to reach them are for the exclusive use of Israeli Jews, and the settlements and their residents are protected by the Israeli military. Palestinian laborers help to build these settlements because they are desperate for work. It enrages most Palestinian people and endangers the peace process by needlessly humiliating them. It also violates United Nations resolutions from 1969. But they keep doing it, and the United States remains silent.



And yes, there is an alarmingly large contingent of religious conservative Zionists in North America who see nothing wrong with this travesty. Despite the fact that their own Bible (NJ, are you also familiar with the New Testament?) states, "As far as it concerns you, be at peace with all men," and "Thou shalt not steal," they believe Israel can do no wrong and deserves America's blessings, no matter what they do. They falsely believe that because this territory was captured by force by the Israeli army in 1967, that magically makes it Israeli territory now, and it's perfectly okay for the Palestinians to live in their squalid refugee camps (NJ seems to have re-written history, getting these events entirely backwards. Even his dates are fictitious. Learn to see ignorant people for who they truly are, and ignore their self-righteous religious claims. It's always easiest to simply believe what your parents believed, even when it's wrong. These people will wreck the world.
2011-02-16 21:56:21 UTC
Yes they do that

yes it is illegal





Israel does it because they know they will eventually have to give up the west bank. They also know that when this happens, a certain amount of territory will be swapped between the new Palestinian state and Israel to allow access to isolated settlements and make the borders less intertwined. Israel knows, that the more people that are settled in an area, the easier it will be to claim that area during this period of readjustment. this is why the Israelis have heavily fortified settlements to the East of Jerusalem, securing the suburbs for this future readjustment.
Jimmy C
2011-02-16 21:52:46 UTC
Yes. It goes on every day. israel is stealing Palestinian land, destroying the homes of the people who have lived there for centuries, and is building illegal Israeli settlements. This is why there is no peace.
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2016-10-15 11:08:42 UTC
because of the fact Israel has an incredibly vulnerable government, led via an fool top minister. enable me clarify: not purely like the U. S., Israeli parliament, the Knesset, is outfitted of political events. while balloting, we, Israeli voters, vote not for president, electors or perhaps one in all 2 or 3 events, yet asked to determine on between 20 to 30 potential events. How is that disastrous? with the intention to make a pass, the Israeli government could desire to type a coalition out of tiny little debris - each and each donning its very own time table. And so, jointly as orthodox events cry "additional funds for orthodox training!" Rightist events bellow: "construction outdoors the golf green line could desire to pass on!" And the liberal social gathering insists: "Legalize civil marriage!" (which might reason orthodox events to directly drop the bomb and depart the government). to that end we are left with one vulnerable, squeezable top minister- who'd actual end construction new settlements if he could desire to, yet then- he'd have not have been given any coalition, no government and no top-ministry. So on the single hand, Netanyahu is doing the final he can under the heavy stress he's in. on the different hand- from outsider perspective- this does look little or no. Which make Israel, Netanyahu and in spite of attempt Israel is doing in direction of peace-communicate an effortless objective for ridicule. in case you opt to maintain inhibiting the peace talks- go on. Belittle in spite of Israel is doing. fascinated events (interested in keeping the present stand-nonetheless) interior and out of doorways the middle East do in simple terms that with the intention to crush the talks.
?
2011-02-18 21:34:28 UTC
NJ, should seek help with his/her problem. G*D who may or may not exist didnt give the Israelites anything. In any case he allowed Titus to kick their arses out in AD 70.he then allowed Hitler to murder a few million duringWW2. Surely proof that they were no longer his "chosen people".

Anyway for some one in Brooklyn to some how claim direct descendency from people who lived 2000 years ago is nonsense.
?
2011-02-20 06:29:54 UTC
they do it knowing it is illegal,where is it all going to end,there is friction in the Middle East and Asia Minor, what is going to happen if it spreads to Saudi Arabia.There are to many arms in the area and just one spark and all hell will break out. I fear for the Suez canal a life line for Europe,I saw on the news this mourning that 2 Iranian warships went through the Suez canal to Syria,why I wonder?
?
2011-02-16 21:35:04 UTC
You are right.

That's their understanding of peace- to keep stealing other people’s lands, and make it harder for them to live on their land, so they leave by themselves without Israeli’s asking them to leave, to say that they ( israelis ) are innocent and they didn't force them to leave their lands. That's their idea of peace, and I think that what have been taken by force should be gain back by force. The language of war, is the only language to deal with that country.
NJ
2011-02-16 21:45:15 UTC
This land belongs to Israel given to them by God Himself. Read the book of Exodus, but most importantly the book of Joshua gives specific locations from Lebanon to the Jordan River, from east of this location and etc.



Palestinian militants took possession of this land (the Gaza) by brute force, some where between 1998- 2010, this was the home of the Jewish people, Gods' chosen ones, and Israel is Gods' dwelling place that He has assigned to Himself. After the militant group called Hamas and his fighters took the homes from the Jewish people, they really had no place to go, so they were forced to sleep intents on their own soil. The media loves to attract attention whether the news is correct or not. I can assure you this is not Palestine territory...

The militants wont's Israel and all the Jewish people annihilated, but God will never allow this to happen. Israel has given land several times in order to try and appease these nuts with their radical ideology.but nothing has worked. This may surprise you but the Palestinian people do not want to separate and become a State, the reason why they know that Israel sends as many as 500 trucks into Palestine, food, water,building materials, a well as many other things needed, but Hamas stops the trucks and remove the very best and leave the rest to the hunger of their own people, and especially the children..
2011-02-16 22:21:18 UTC
As everyone stated - yes they do and it is illegal, more disturbing though is that it is against the Geneva Convention, originally put in place in view of the Holocaust. Irony.
borhan
2011-02-16 21:53:17 UTC
who said you that Israel want peace .



they want to enslave muslims of palestines .Jews have long history of betraying prophets and not honoring any treaty .these Jews are no different than those jews
?
2011-02-16 22:39:02 UTC
Palestine isn't a country anymore it doesn't exist, what year are you living in? wake up this is 2011


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